De Americanise good old Kevin

I’m having a bit of trouble with Kevin.

The phrase I want is ‘Anytime at all’.

Now, most of it works well, but I cannot get good old Kev to say ‘at’ with, a as in hat, in a British voice.
(I realise he isn’t British!!)

I have typed hat, mat etc into the phoneme library area, but nothing is quite what I want.

Any tips?

Also having considerable difficulty getting “circumstance” NOT to sound mid Atlantic!
Have a good weekend y’all.

Hi @davec
I have a list of phenomes that I refer to that might be of use. Here’s part of it (I’m away from my PC atm so can send the others later:

AA odd AA D
AE at AE T
AH hut HH AH T
AO ought AO T
AW cow K AW
AY hide HH AY D
B be B IY
CH cheese CH IY Z
D dee D IY
DH thee DH IY
ER hurt HH ER T
EY ate EY T
F fee F IY
G green G R IY N
IH it IH T
IY eat IY T
JH gee JH IY
K key K IY
L lee L IY
M me M IY
N knee N IY
NG ping P IH NG
OW oat OW T
OY toy T OY
P pee P IY
R read R IY D
S sea S IY
SH she SH IY
T tea T IY
TH theta TH EY T AH
UH hood HH UH D
UW two T UW
V vee V IY
W we W IY
Y yield Y IY L D
Z zee Z IY
ZH seizure S IY ZH ER

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Hi @davec
Also found this reference in the vocaloid reference pages (it’s supposed to be a table but it comes out as HTML Code - you can copy and paste into any word processing program to get it to display properly). The actual page is here: English Phonetics | Vocaloid Wiki | Fandom

Symbol Classification IPA’s Symbol / Name Sample Notes Related Phonemes
[@] vowel ə schwa aware, synthesis, harmony, the In the VOCALOID program, it is not actually used by itself but rather with other phonetics. However, Luka can use this phoneme to make a the “a” sound in aline [V] (stressed)

[@r] (r-colored)

|[V]|vowel|ʌ open-mid back unrounded vowel|strut, unclean, cut,

duck|Actually it’s an /ɐ/ in various most of the dialects. Despite this, the notation /ʌ/ still is used for tradition and because some dialects still retains the old pronunciation.|[@] (unstressed)

[{] (fronted)

[Q@] (r-colored)|
|[e]|vowel|ɛopen-mid front unrounded vowel|them, egg|Usually transcribed as /e/ by the AHD|[e@] (r-colored)

[eI] (diphthongized)|
|[I]|vowel|ɪnear-close near-front unrounded vowel|kit, it, synthesis||[i:] (tense)

[I@] (r-colored)|
|[i:]|vowel|close front unrounded vowel|beef, eat, harmony||[I] (lax)

[I@] (r-colored)|
|[{]|vowel|ænear-open front unrounded vowel|trap, axe|In some dialects, it may be diphthongized into /eə/ or similar due Æ-tensing}.|[aI] (diphthongized)

[aU] (diphthongized)|
|[O:]|vowel|ɔːopen-mid back rounded vowel|taught, ought, ball|This vowel has a lot of variations depending on the dialect. In US dialects it varies between /ɑ/ for the cot–caught mergers and /ɒ~ɔ/ for the rest.|[Q] (lax)

[O@] (r-colored)|
|[Q]|vowel|ɒopen back rounded vowel|lot, off||[O:]

[OI] (diphthongized)|
|[U]|vowel|ʊnear-close near-back rounded vowel|put, look||[u:] (tense)

[U@] (r-colored)|
|[u:]|vowel|close back rounded vowel|boot, view||[w] (semivowel)

[U] (lax)

[U@] (r-colored)|
|[@r]|rhotic vowel|əɹ, ɚ or ɝ (US)

ɜː (UK)|urge, bird, marker|r-colored schwa|[@] (non-rhotic)

|[eI]|diphthong|eɪ̯|pay, age, date|j-colored /e/|[e] (monothong)|
|[aI]|diphthong|aɪ̯|buy, eye, died|j-colored /a/|[@]


|[OI]|diphthong|ɔɪ̯|boy, oil, choice|j-colored /ɔ/|[Q]


|[@U]|diphthong|oʊ̯ (UK)

oʊ̯~o (US)|oat, soak, show|w-colored /o/. Usually transcribed as /əʊ̯/ or /oː/|[@]|
|[aU]|diphthong|aʊ̯|loud, out, cow|w-colored /a/|[{]

|[I@]|rhotic vowel|ɪə (UK)

i(ə)ɹ (US)|beer, ear|r-colored /ɪ/|[I] (uppercase i)

|[e@]|rhotic vowel|ɛə~ɛː (UK)

ɛɹ (US)|bear, air, aware|r-colored /ɛ/|[e] (non-rhotic)|
|[U@]|rhotic vowel|ʊə (UK)

ʊɹ (US)|cure, surely|r-colored /ʊ/|[U] (non-rhotic)

[u:] (non-rhotic)

[O:] (non-rhotic)

|[O@]|rhotic vowel|ɔː(ɹ) (UK)

ɔɹ~oɹ (US)|pour, sort|r-colored /ɔ/|[O:] (non-rhotic)

[Q] (non-rhotic)|
|[Q@]|rhotic vowel|ɑː(ɹ) (UK)

ɑɹ (US)|star, are, harmony|r-colored /ɑ/|[@]

|[w]|consonant|wlabio-velar approximant|way||[u:] (syllabant)

|[j]|consonant|jpalatal approximant|yellow||[i:] (syllabant)

[I] (uppercase i)|
|[b]|consonant|bvoiced bilabial plosive|cab||[p] (voiceless)

[bh] (aspirated)|
|[bh]|consonant|bʰ aspirated voiced bilabial plosive|big|at the beginning of syllable, /b/ with aspiration|[ph] (voiceless)

[b] (deaspirated)|
|[d]|consonant|dvoiced alveolar plosive|bad||[t] (voiceless)

[dh] (aspirated)

[D] (lenited, lowered)|
|[dh]|consonant|dʰ aspirated voiced alveolar plosive|dog|at the beginning of syllable, /d/ with aspiration|[th] (voiceless)

[d] (deaspirated)

[D] (lenited, lowered)|
|[g]|consonant|gvoiced velar plosive|bag||[k] (voiceless)

[gh] (aspirated)

[N] (nasalized)|
|[gh]|consonant|gʰ aspirated voiced velar plosive|god|at the beginning of syllable, /g/ with aspiration|[kh] (voiceless)

[g] (deaspirated)|
|[dZ]|consonant|ʤvoiced postalveolar affricate|jeans||[tS] (voiceless)

[Z] (spirantizated)

[d] (deaffricated)|
|[v]|consonant|vvoiced labiodental fricative|vote||[f] (voiceless)|
|[D]|consonant|ðvoiced dental fricative|their||[T] (voiceless)

[d] (fortited)

[dh] (aspirated)

[v] (Th-fronting)|
|[z]|consonant|zvoiced alveolar fricative|resort||[s] (voiceless)

[Z] (palatalized)|
|[Z]|consonant|ʒvoiced postalveolar fricative|Asia||[S] (voiceless)

[z] (depalatalized)

[dZ] (affricated)|
|[m]|consonant|mbilabial nasal|mind||[n] (alveolarized)|
|[n]|consonant|nalveolar nasal|night||[N] (velarized)

[m] (labialized)|
|[N]|consonant|ŋvelar nasal|long||[n] (develarized)|
|[r]|consonant|ɹalveolar approximant|red|The /r/ is the symbol for the alveolar trill or rolling R for the IPA and the X-SAMPA, the symbol in this case seems be based on AHD|[R] (rolled)

[w] (gliding)|
|[l]|consonant|ɫvelarized alveolar lateral approximant|feel|Dark L, at the syllable coda position|[l0] (develarized)

[w] (L-vocalized)

[u] (L-vocalolized)

[U] (L-vocalized)|
|[l0]|consonant|lalveolar lateral approximant|list|Clear L, at the beginning of syllable|[l] (velarized)|
|[p]|consonant|pvoiceless bilabial plosive|dip||[b] (voiced)

[ph] (aspirated)|
|[ph]|consonant|pʰ aspirated voiceless bilabial plosive|peace|At the beginning of syllable, /p/ with aspiration|[bh] (voiced)

[p] (deaspirated)|
|[t]|consonant|tvoiceless alveolar plosive|sit||[d] (voiced)

[th] (aspirated)|
|[th]|consonant|tʰ aspirated voiceless alveolar plosive|top|At the beginning of syllable, /t/ with aspiration|[dh] (voiced)

[t] (deaspirated)|
|[k]|consonant|kvoiceless velar plosive|rock||[g] (voiced)[kh] (aspirated)|
|[kh]|consonant|kʰ aspirated voiceless velar plosive|kiss|At the beginning of syllable, /k/ with aspiration|[gh] (voiced)

[k] (deaspirated)|
|[tS]|consonant|ʧvoiceless postalveolar affricate|touch||[dZ] (voiced)

[S] (spirantizated)

[t] (deaffricated)|
|[f]|consonant|fvoiceless labiodental fricative|feel||[v] (voiced)|
|[T]|consonant|θvoiceless dental fricative|think||[D] (voiced)

[s] (Th-alveolarization)

[f] (Th-fronting)|
|[s]|consonant|svoiceless alveolar fricative|sea||[z] (voiced)

[S] (palatalized)|
|[S]|consonant|ʃvoiceless postalveolar fricative|share||[Z] (voiced)

[tS] (affricated)

[s] (depalatalized)|
|[h]|consonant|hvoiceless glottal fricative|hat|||

Vocaloid uses a different phoneme syntax than SynthV Studio, so those symbols won’t produce the same results.

You can find a full phoneme chart for SynthV here:

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Thanks … will be useful

Thanks, will be useful.

Thanks Claire, will be useful

Thanks GBT. Helpful.

Thanks GBT but this lot might just have been written in Mandarin! Way over my head.

Thanks again Claire. I must find myself a default button that enters ‘Thanks Claire’. It would have been really useful already. Dave

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Hi @claire, you are right but I found that some of the phonemes I sent produced slightly different sounds and are closer to the way I pronounce certain words (West Yorkshire in the UK). I mix and match the sounds from the SynthV list with the Vocaloid and the universal phonemes lists til I get the right feel. Sometimes it’s the SynthV versions other times not.
I’m away from my DAW so can’t send you some worked examples of how I use the tables but I will next week. I find myself saying the words really slowly and exaggerated to figure out what sounds I need to construct a word if the SynthV auto generated version is a bit off (eg adding ‘iy’ at the end of words that have an ‘eye’ sound).

Edging forward VERY slightly with SVP.

Can anyone help me make 2 words sound British with Kevin please?

(Don’t laugh … they are part of a song for children).

A. First … I have tried ur, ir, er but am stumped. All sound American.

B. Parrot. … tried ah, eh, er, … can only get it to sound like pearot or ferret !!

British pronunciation remember.
This is the second of what I am sure will be MANY, MANY cries for help with pronunciation.
I anticipate folks getting cheesed off with my post requests.

Thanks anyway, Dave

en nee time at all
en nee time a tall

these seem ok to my ears using Kevin

sir cum stans
sir cum stance

both sound ok to me using kevin

Thanks people.

Hi @davec
Back from my jollies and catching up with stuff.
Here’s three variants of ‘first’ and a parrot (that is not dead :grin:) that sound more UK than USA to my ear. I think part of the process, above selecting the right phonemes, is the duration and strength settings of each part.
For example in the north of the UK we have flattened vowels so there’s emphasis on F, a shorter softer Uh R and stronger S and T.
I’ve shown how I shaped each of the phonemes to give you some more practical help - hopefully :wink:

first v1

slightly southern posh:
first - slightly posh

Slight Irish twang:
first - bit of an Irish twang


Hope these are helpful in some way. I’m trying to extract the lyrics of one of my songs along with the actual phonemes to give you more examples for comparison.

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Thank you so much for all your hard work GBT. Not sure whether I will ever attain your level of finesse, but I’ll certainly try. Dave

Hi @davec
Im only a few weeks in front of you so I wont take too much credit just yet (unless the pronunciations work in which case I’ll take the kudos :wink:)

Also, not sure how @Rigil got the phonemes ‘sir cum stans’ or ‘sir cum stance’ to work - they don’t register as accepted phonemes on my version of SV. I got something close to UK as follows:

Obviously it depends how you pronounce the words in your locale - ‘sarf lahndahn’ will be a lot different to how we speak ‘oop north’ :wink:

Hi @davec

I found I can add a zip file to the forum, so here’s my reference table of all things phoneme related gleaned from various freely available interweb sources.
Hope it helps as its layout is easier to read than the gobbledegook of my previous sharing attempt.
There’s two sheets of reference material showing what combination of letters give the identified sound if you want to build a word by syllable/phoneme.

Enjoy (shout if you need any further help)

phonemes for (11.2 KB)

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